Welcome to The Discovery Trading Group

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Nov 292011

We are a group of professional and amateur traders founded by principals of a quantitative research firm which develops strategy and periodicity diverse programs and risk modeling tools. Our own internal process involves using this webspace as a collective resource for sharing both discretionary thoughts during intraday sessions and as a sort of virtual think tank for our ongoing quant research. A big part of that research has consistently shown that the ‘Holy Grail’ of the purely mechanical, single market intraday trading strategy that produces near linear returns without significant ongoing adaptation DOES NOT exist. As such we have found that for most traders pursuing single market intraday strategies, an adaptive, risk management focused discretionary approach is likely to bear the most fruit. Ironic, given that rigid, purely mechanical systems are what the vast majority of retail traders (including us at one time) seem to be in relentless pursuit of. 

In the spring of 2010 we created a private, member only forum behind the blog devoted to our ongoing discussions related to discretionary analysis of market structure, price action and order flow to like minded retail traders as a sort of experiment. Since we have always found the format in which we use this space privately to flesh out ideas to be so beneficial, we wondered if it might be even more fruitful to increase the sheer numbers of those participating in this process and with that, DTG as it exists today was born. By any measure, the experiment has been almost unfathomably successful for us in terms of it’s role in keeping us sharp in whatever discretionary or quantitative work we happen to be engaged in at the time. Sharing our experiences and interacting with the greater numbers continues to spark new ideas for all of us, making our little experiment a huge win on all fronts in our book. For information about the type of trading that is the foundation for what most members are focused on here, follow this link:

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07/10/2020 ES Trade Plan Worksheet

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Jul 102020

The Nasdaq closed at another record high on Thursday as money is flowing into coronavirus “safe” technology investments.  The DOW and S&P 500 both closed down.

Crude oil prices fell overnight as coronavirus case increases could slow demand once again.

The US reported over 60K cases on Thursday, another single day record high; the 6th in 10 days.  Texas reported 4 straight days of record highs with 10,900 yesterday.  Total US cases now approach 3.12M.

United Airlines (UAL) reached a deal with the pilot’s union to offer voluntary furloughs and early retirement.  The deal will not reduce their workforce enough as UAL had announced on Wednesday that they may need to cut 45% of their workforce or 36,000 employees due to the coronavirus slow down in air travel.

Ford (F) may be forced to shut down some US plants because of engine production delays in Mexico.  Their Chihuahua state plant has been forced to operate 50% capacity because of the coronavirus.  Mexico’s coronavirus death toll has risen to the 5th highest globally with 33,500 deaths.  US plant shutdowns may start next week.

The economic calendar focus is the PPI numbers @ 8:30 am ET.

Volatility continues to tick down but remains elevated.

Size bias is short into the PPI numbers on (once again) very light Globex volume.


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07/09/2020 ES Trade Plan Worksheet

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Jul 092020

The US reached a record 59.400 new coronavirus cases yesterday, the 5th record in the last 9 days.  US deaths have climbed to over 132K.  Initial market focus is the 8:30am ET Unemployment number where more than 1.3M are expected to file for the first time bringing the US total to over 48M since the coronavirus outbreak in mid-March.

Google (GOOGL) has canceled plans to create isolated cloud services which enables countries to control their own data.  The spotlight is China where escalating geopolitical tensions have made the market too “sensitive”.  The “Isolated Region” project given Google a way to setup shop in China.

Bed Bath & Beyond (BBBY) is down nearly 9% premarket after announcing they would close nearly 200 stores over the next 2 years.  There first quarter sales were down 49% due to COVID-19.

Eldorado Resorts (ERI) received approval from the Nevada Gaming Commission to take over the larger rival Caesars Entertainment (CZR).  The acquisition would make Eldorado the largest US gaming operator.

The economic calendar is light; in addition to Claims @ 8:30am ET, Wholesale Inventories is @ 10:00am ET.

Volatility continues to shrink as the S&P 500 struggles to move higher.

Size bias is bullish into the 8:30am ET Claims number on very light Globex data.


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